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By Russ Lay | Outer Banks Voice on January 28, 2013

First of three parts

When word of two large fights and a stabbing began to circulate last year, public statements from law enforcement confirmed that at least some of the people involved were gang members.

Shortly thereafter, police, in conjunction with organizations such as the P.T.A. and the League of Women Voters, began to conduct public meetings to inform residents about the presence of gangs in Dare County and local efforts to contain them.

In the comments section of the Voice and other local and social media, reactions ranged from fear, to support of police actions, to skepticism.

Some readers felt gang activities had been covered up to protect the tourist industry. Others felt the gang problem was being hyped, perhaps by police looking for more funding and manpower.

We sat down with Dare County Sheriff Doug Doughtie and Capt. Charlie Nieman of the Dare County Sheriff’s Office to talk about gangs and how serious the threat really is on the Outer Banks.

We also received the views of two local police chiefs: Kevin Brinkley of Nags Head and Gary Britt of Kill Devil Hills.

When asked if there was an attempt by police to cover up information on gang activity and some of the violence that took place last summer, Doughtie said: “I don’t think that’s the case at all.”

He pointed to the public meetings on gangs and said local police officers were open in discussing gang activity in Dare County, including some of the violent outbreaks.

“I attended the first public meeting in Kill Devil Hills and even though we all work closely together, I was impressed with how well these officers have worked their way into the gang system in a big way,” he said.

Doughtie said the topic of gangs here has been an educational process for the public, nightclub owners and the media. He believes communication among all of these groups will continue to improve.

And what about the fights? Were they gang-related?

Sheriff Doug Doughtie.

“Often we don’t know exactly what starts a fight at a certain bar,” he said. “It can be two guys arguing, two women or groups from different counties or schools. But once the fight starts, it seems like everyone from everywhere gets involved, including some who have definite gang affiliations.”

How do they know?

“These are people that have been arrested before, and through that process or their activities in the prison system, we know the people who are in gangs,” Nieman said.

“We work closely with other towns, such as Elizabeth City and we have excellent working relationship with federal agencies.”

Added Doughtie: “We have photos, we know their associations and we monitor social media sites like Facebook, where gang members make their presence known. The local ALE (Alcohol Law Enforcement) agents are also pretty hard-nosed about gang activity, and they know who the players are also.”

Our discussion then turned to the balance between efforts to inform the public while not overstating the problem or creating unnecessary fear.

We asked Sheriff Doughtie, simply: “Does Dare County have a gang problem?” which led to a slightly more complex answer.

“Yes, I think we do have a gang problem, a certain element of activity in the drug trade. It’s driven by drugs and money, and when gangs know drugs can sell for more in Dare County than Elizabeth City, it’s just good business sense that draws them here.”

The public meetings have included information about colors and other markings favored by gangs.

“I don’t want people to think there’s 25 gangs with 10 members each and 250 members living here. And if you see a group of teenagers walking with red bandanas or a pant leg hiked up, are they ‘wannabes’ or the real members?

“The real gang members aren’t walking, they’re driving better cars than I do.”

Nieman described the dilemma in more detail.

“If you go to any town today that has a major gang problem and asked them to look back twenty years ago, when there were only a handful of known gang members, would they do things differently? You can’t stick your head in the sand, you’ve got to do something now.”

The dilemma for law enforcement is how to communicate this to the public in a balanced fashion. There are gang members living here and doing business locally. Their numbers are small, but on weekends, out-of-town members are drawn to the nighttime entertainment at Outer Banks venues.

If law enforcement downplays the budding problem, it could grow right under our noses.

On the other hand, Dare’s gang problem isn’t the stuff of television police dramas. The two widely publicized fights were just that, two fights. And they took place at times when most of us, visitors and locals, had called it a night.

“The times and places you and I go out to eat or move around town are not the times and places these fights have taken taken place,” Doughtie said.

The bulk of gang activity is immersed in drug sales, largely unseen by the average person.

So it is unlikely that most locals or tourists will come face-to-face with or even be aware of gang activity.

Next: We’ll look at why violence has occurred at bars and what local police departments are doing about it.

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What are the two gangs in Outer Banks? ›

In Outer Banks the main players are split into two groups: the Pogues and the Kooks. They're kinda like Sharks and Jets, without the dance-fighting. (Though who knows what Season 3 might bring!) Down in Outer Banks, North Carolina, the Pogues seriously hate the Kooks and the Kooks seriously hate the Pogues.

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The earliest of these serious gangs formed in northeastern American cities, particularly in New York.

What were gangs like in the 1960s? ›

Common criminal gang activities in the 1960's included strong-arm robberies, illegal dice games, burglaries, auto thefts, assaults, and drug sales. Although gang violence subsided somewhat in the mid-1960's, gangs such as the Bloods and Crips were still prevalent in Los Angeles.

Who created the gangs? ›

There was inadequate housing and few jobs available, so the unemployed turned to crime to survive. After a short time, individuals found safety in larger numbers. They began to band together, thus forming gangs. Early gangs were made up of the poorest people–usually Irish, Italian, and Polish.

Is Rafe Cameron a kook? ›

The teenagers on other side of the proverbial tracks are the kooks: Sarah Cameron, Kie, Rafe, and Topper. They're rich. They may act like they belong, but some may also only like on the island during the summer months and then move away when it gets cooler.

What does JJ stand for OBX? ›

Three seasons later, and the best reasoning behind why JJ is called “JJ” is that it's to differentiate him from John B; specifically that his name is also John: John J. Maybank.

Why do gangs use 13? ›

The gang has allegiance to the CA prison gang, Mexican Mafia, aka “La Eme”. Sureños identify with “13”, “XIII”, “X3”, the letter “M” - 13th letter in the alphabet - as homage to the Mexican Mafia.

Are Crips still active? ›

As of 2015, the Crips gang consists of between approximately 30,000 and 35,000 members and 800 sets, active in 221 cities and 41 U.S. states. The states with the highest estimated number of Crip sets are California, Texas, Oklahoma, and Missouri.

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Gang Presence by State

While gang members and gang activity exist across the country, some states have a larger gang presence than others. California, Nevada, Idaho, New Mexico, and Illinois have the most gang members for every 1,000 citizens of the state.

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How did black gangs start? ›

Overcrowding became a huge issue, especially since legalized restrictive covenants kept Blacks from moving into other areas of LA. Violent clashes arose between the Black and white populations. Black gangs were created as protection against white violence.

Are gangs still a thing? ›

Some 33,000 violent street gangs, motorcycle gangs, and prison gangs are criminally active in the U.S. today.

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A female gangster is often referred to as a "gangster" or "gang member," just like their male counterparts. However, in informal or street slang, some people might use terms like "gangsta" or "gangsterette" to specify a female gang member.

What race were the first gangsters? ›

Gangs in America originated around the time of the Civil War formed by mostly Irish American kids. Later they turned to criminal activity and by the turn of the century there were gangs of many different ethnic origins. There were Jewish gangs, Irish, Polish, Italian, etc.

Who do gangs target? ›

More than a dozen Los Angeles gangs are targeting some of the city's wealthiest residents in a new and aggressive manner, sending out crews in multiple cars to find, follow and rob people driving high-end vehicles or wearing expensive jewelry, according to police.

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A widely respected chronicler of British crime, Luke Pike (1873), reported the first active gangs in Western civilization. While Pike documented the existence o...
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What are pogues and kooks? ›

“Two tribes. One island.”The Kooks are the elite with parents having money. The Pogues are desperate to move up the social ladder to become new versions of themselves and establish new beginnings. It's like Gossip Girl but island style.

Who are the kooks in OBX? ›

In surfing slang, a "kook" is a wannabe or a poser who can't hang with the real surfers. You can see how the Outer Banks writers borrowed that term for rich kids who wanna be beach locals but don't get it. This term is more or less safe to use around non-OBX fans. It also just means an odd or eccentric person.

Are kooks and pogues real terms? ›

While Pogues and Kooks are fictional characters, class divides and power structures are real in society.

What is the poor side of Outer Banks called? ›

Quotes. John B (describing The Cut): "And then, this is the south side, or the cut. Home of the working class who make a living busing tables, washing yachts and running charters.

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